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2019-07-27 15:32:35 spacebug https://superuser.com/questions/1255287/how-do-i-bring-up-the-emoji-ime-on-windows-10
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2019-07-27 15:37:28 dvdgsng ah i see. thanks!
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2019-07-27 16:14:58 inceptor <Message redacted by: inceptor>
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2019-07-27 16:16:52 inceptor Oops. Wrong room i think. Sorry.
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2019-07-27 16:47:38 dreamerchris 👍 yes win+ .
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2019-07-27 18:30:26 theblackhierophant Trolling party added a bunch of addresses for the room that are now not removable. Error reads "Error removing alias: There was an error removing that alias. It may no longer exist or a temporary error occurred."
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2019-07-27 18:30:29 theblackhierophant How to fix?
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2019-07-27 18:33:42 tulir theBlackHierophant: you can't remove aliases added by others, but if you're on the same server, you can hide them from the room state with /devtools: Explore Room State -> m.room.aliases -> matrix.org -> Edit -> remove all the spam -> Send
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2019-07-27 18:34:17 tulir server admins can remove aliases added by others, so also report them to the admin of the server they were on
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2019-07-27 18:34:50 theblackhierophant Thanks
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2019-07-27 21:06:09 autismsandwich I can no longer see the 'Public' and 'Room Directory' options when creating a room. I am assuming these are still set to off by default?
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2019-07-27 21:12:00 autismsandwich * I can no longer see the public and room directory options when creating a room. I am assuming these are still set to off by default?
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2019-07-27 21:26:12 <-- @anarchist_communist:matrix.org (None) has left #Riot Web/Desktop
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2019-07-28 01:26:41 thosgood how do you update riot? can you do it in the app or do you need to redownload the latest release directly?
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2019-07-28 01:27:55 thosgood oh, i guess it's just the web app but wrapped up, so no updates need on a computer, right?
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2019-07-28 01:33:29 aaron You’ll get a banner across the top when there is an update. If you are using the website it will just update when you refresh the page.
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2019-07-28 02:32:22 qurqar Any plans for being able to search in encrypted rooms?
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2019-07-28 02:35:49 aaron Yes of course (and it does seem to be fairly close, see https://matrix.to/#/!kiEtuVPPUonkeDVCTQ:matrix.org/$1560349600310307XegwR:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=raim.ist&via=ponies.im for a sneak peak)
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2019-07-28 02:36:01 aaron * Yes of course (and it does seem to be fairly close, see https://matrix.to/#/!kiEtuVPPUonkeDVCTQ:matrix.org/$1560349600310307XegwR:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=raim.ist&via=ponies.im for a sneak peek)
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2019-07-28 02:42:44 qurqar Aaron: had no idea, thanks, sounds like an interesting solution
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2019-07-28 03:16:37 qurqar Aaron: 2 questions. Will this how up as a new device? I would want that if possible because I do not want to get my contacts to go through verifications again. 2 Will this mess up audio/video 1to1 chat?
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2019-07-28 03:20:25 aaron I assume no to both but I haven't tried it yet
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2019-07-28 03:21:58 qurqar ok thanks
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2019-07-28 06:27:44 hypd Newbie question: I've set up a couple of encrypted rooms, and all devices (for all users) in those rooms are verified. This includes a mobile device that I use to access the room via the official Riot.im app for Android.
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2019-07-28 06:27:44 Now, due to numerous reasons, I'd like to re-install the OS on my mobile device, which means re-installying the Riot.im app, too. However, is there a way to backup my current Riot.im app, and restore it after re-installing the OS so that it does not show up as a new device meaning I don't have to go through the laborious process of asking everyone in the room to re-verifiy it? Thank you.
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2019-07-28 06:36:16 kunsi i'm not aware of any backup features
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2019-07-28 06:40:26 hypd There are Android apps for backing up app data prior to a system/OS re-install. Would they work for backing up the Riot.im app so that upon restoration, it would continue as the same device without re-verification?
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2019-07-28 06:40:51 hypd Such as Titanium Backup or oandbackup.
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2019-07-28 06:40:59 hypd Would that work?
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2019-07-28 06:41:47 kunsi never tried
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2019-07-28 07:01:41 <-- peter90p (@peter90p:matrix.org) has left #Riot Web/Desktop
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2019-07-28 10:11:22 dreamerchris I guess theoreticly in my opinion this should not be allowed cause of security but I would love there to be a way like a one time use key that the only purpose of it would be to migrate to a new setup so if you got one device like you for e. G. That you want to reinstall os/riot, with the use of this key it would continue to be encrypted and verified as the same device or even a migration to ones' new device
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2019-07-28 10:12:17 dreamerchris * I guess theoreticly in my opinion this might be not allowed cause of security but I would love there to be a way like a one time use key that the only purpose of it would be to migrate to a new setup so if you got one device like you for e. G. That you want to reinstall os/riot, with the use of this key it would continue to be encrypted and verified as the same device or even a migration to ones' new device
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2019-07-28 10:12:23 tulir cross-signing is coming and sounds like it would solve your use case
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2019-07-28 10:12:46 tulir it won't be the same device, but it'll make verification basically transparent to everyone else who has verified your cross signing identity
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2019-07-28 10:12:54 tulir and with the existing key sharing, you'll be able to decrypt old messages
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2019-07-28 10:13:16 dreamerchris Notice there the "one time use key" so it is logical and be a migration
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2019-07-28 10:13:49 dreamerchris Great tulir that would work nice too
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2019-07-28 01:26:41 thosgood how do you update riot? can you do it in the app or do you need to redownload the latest release directly?
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2019-07-28 01:27:55 thosgood oh, i guess it's just the web app but wrapped up, so no updates need on a computer, right?
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2019-07-28 01:33:29 aaron You’ll get a banner across the top when there is an update. If you are using the website it will just update when you refresh the page.
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2019-07-28 02:32:22 qurqar Any plans for being able to search in encrypted rooms?
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2019-07-28 02:35:49 aaron Yes of course (and it does seem to be fairly close, see https://matrix.to/#/!kiEtuVPPUonkeDVCTQ:matrix.org/$1560349600310307XegwR:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=raim.ist&via=ponies.im for a sneak peak)
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2019-07-28 02:36:01 aaron * Yes of course (and it does seem to be fairly close, see https://matrix.to/#/!kiEtuVPPUonkeDVCTQ:matrix.org/$1560349600310307XegwR:matrix.org?via=matrix.org&via=raim.ist&via=ponies.im for a sneak peek)
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2019-07-28 02:42:44 qurqar Aaron: had no idea, thanks, sounds like an interesting solution
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2019-07-28 03:16:37 qurqar Aaron: 2 questions. Will this how up as a new device? I would want that if possible because I do not want to get my contacts to go through verifications again. 2 Will this mess up audio/video 1to1 chat?
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2019-07-28 03:20:25 aaron I assume no to both but I haven't tried it yet
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2019-07-28 03:21:58 qurqar ok thanks
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2019-07-28 06:27:44 hypd Newbie question: I've set up a couple of encrypted rooms, and all devices (for all users) in those rooms are verified. This includes a mobile device that I use to access the room via the official Riot.im app for Android.
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2019-07-28 06:27:44 Now, due to numerous reasons, I'd like to re-install the OS on my mobile device, which means re-installying the Riot.im app, too. However, is there a way to backup my current Riot.im app, and restore it after re-installing the OS so that it does not show up as a new device meaning I don't have to go through the laborious process of asking everyone in the room to re-verifiy it? Thank you.
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2019-07-28 06:36:16 kunsi i'm not aware of any backup features
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2019-07-28 06:40:26 hypd There are Android apps for backing up app data prior to a system/OS re-install. Would they work for backing up the Riot.im app so that upon restoration, it would continue as the same device without re-verification?
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2019-07-28 06:40:51 hypd Such as Titanium Backup or oandbackup.
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2019-07-28 06:40:59 hypd Would that work?
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2019-07-28 06:41:47 kunsi never tried
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2019-07-28 07:01:41 ◀▬▬ @peter90p:matrix.org (None) has left #Riot Web/Desktop
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2019-07-28 10:11:22 dreamerchris I guess theoreticly in my opinion this should not be allowed cause of security but I would love there to be a way like a one time use key that the only purpose of it would be to migrate to a new setup so if you got one device like you for e. G. That you want to reinstall os/riot, with the use of this key it would continue to be encrypted and verified as the same device or even a migration to ones' new device
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2019-07-28 10:12:17 dreamerchris * I guess theoreticly in my opinion this might be not allowed cause of security but I would love there to be a way like a one time use key that the only purpose of it would be to migrate to a new setup so if you got one device like you for e. G. That you want to reinstall os/riot, with the use of this key it would continue to be encrypted and verified as the same device or even a migration to ones' new device
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2019-07-28 10:12:23 tulir cross-signing is coming and sounds like it would solve your use case
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2019-07-28 10:12:46 tulir it won't be the same device, but it'll make verification basically transparent to everyone else who has verified your cross signing identity
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2019-07-28 10:12:54 tulir and with the existing key sharing, you'll be able to decrypt old messages
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2019-07-28 10:13:16 dreamerchris Notice there the "one time use key" so it is logical and be a migration
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2019-07-28 10:13:49 dreamerchris Great tulir that would work nice too
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